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How a Hail Damage Estimate Is Written

A hail damage estimate is written panel by panel. For each damaged panel it lists how many dents there are and how big they are, then adds lines for oversized dents, aluminum, and any part that has to come off so a technician can reach the back of the panel. Panels that cannot be fixed paintlessly get their own repair and paint lines. Read it that way, one panel at a time, and you can see what the estimate covers and what it left out.

Here is what each part means and where missing damage usually hides.

The panel list

The estimate starts with the car: year, make, model, VIN, and your claim number if there is one. Then it lists every panel that has damage.

Hail estimates name panels the way the car is built:

A panel that is not on the list is not getting paid for. That is the first thing to check, before you look at any numbers. The next lines tell you how much damage each listed panel has.

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Dent counts and dent sizes

For each panel, the estimate gives a dent count and a dent size. Hail is usually priced from a chart, often called a matrix, that crosses the number of dents on a panel with how big they are.

That last point is why the count matters so much. A fast walkaround in flat light tends to count low, and a low count drops a panel into a cheaper band. Our Argus 3D scanner documents every panel in about 10 minutes, with dent counts, sizes and depths, so each panel is placed on what is actually there.

Counts and sizes cover ordinary dents. The next lines cover the ones that are not ordinary.

Oversize and aluminum lines

Some damage costs more than the chart's standard price, and it gets its own line.

Check each panel for these lines. If the hood or roof has large dents and the estimate shows no oversize line, that is missing damage. If a panel is aluminum and priced like steel, that is missing too.

The other lines that go missing are labor, not dents.

Remove and install lines

To push a dent out from behind, the technician has to reach the back of the panel. On a lot of panels, something is in the way. Taking it off and putting it back is labor, and it is written as R&I, short for remove and install.

Common R&I lines on a hail estimate:

These lines are easy to leave off a fast estimate, because they are not dents. They are still real work, and the repair cannot be done without them. If your estimate has roof dents and no headliner line, ask why.

Some panels need more than PDR, and they get a different kind of line.

Repair and paint lines for non-PDR panels

Where a panel cannot be fixed paintlessly, because the paint cracked, the metal stretched, or a sharp dent sits on a body line, the estimate switches to conventional repair for that panel.

These lines cost far more than PDR on the same panel, which is why it matters which panels truly need them. A panel written for paint that could have been fixed paintlessly costs more and loses its factory finish. PDR vs a body shop compares the two.

Once you know what every line means, you can check your own estimate against the car.

How to spot what is missing

Put your estimate next to a documented count of the car and go panel by panel.

Missing damage is normal on hail claims. The first estimate is usually written fast, outside, in whatever light the day had. When it comes in light, the shop writes the supplement and sends it to your insurer on the same claim. What a hail supplement is explains how that works, and how a hail claim works covers the whole claim in order.

Check your estimate against the car

A hail estimate is much easier to read with a full count in your hand. Bring your car and your estimate to our shop at 426 Miami St in Leavenworth for a free 3D scan. It takes about 10 minutes and documents every panel, with dent counts, sizes and depths, so you can see line by line whether the estimate matches the car. No estimate yet? Start with a free estimate and have the full picture before the adjuster writes theirs.

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Common questions

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What is on a hail damage estimate?

A list of damaged panels, each with a dent count and a dent size, plus lines for oversized dents, aluminum panels, and any trim, lights or headliner that has to come off to reach the back of a panel. Panels that need conventional repair get their own repair and paint lines.

What does R&I mean on a hail estimate?

Remove and install. It is the labor to take a part off and put it back, such as a headliner, molding or tail light, so a technician can reach the back of a dented panel.

Why does my hail estimate show dent counts as a range?

Hail is usually priced from a chart that groups dent counts into bands for each panel and dent size. The estimate shows which band each panel falls in, so an accurate count is what puts each panel in the right one.

How do I know if my hail estimate is missing damage?

Compare it panel by panel with a documented count of the car. Look for missing panels such as roof rails and pillars, counts that look low, no oversize lines, and no removal lines for the headliner or trim. Missing damage goes back to the insurer as a supplement on the same claim.

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